medoc

The problem that I see is that the quest does NOT specifically say that you should save the book(s) that you will get as the first award for completing the quest.  What happens, is that people get the book, see another green check and automatically accept that as well, in turn getting the achievement token, which nets them nothing.  The quest SHOULD tell you that you will first receive a BOOK which you can then save to turn in for the rewards that you are describing, i.e. chests.  You should ONLY then turn the book in for tokens if you have gained everything that you can gain from completing those specific quests.  Unfortunately, I was taken in by this lack of information as well and gained absolutely nothing but worthless tokens.  You live and learn and hopefully there will be another chance to redo this.

Snow

This is the result why players do not read carefully for all the quests and just blindly return the quest whenever they see a green mark (So many cases happen here but I see less than 1% in other servers and yet other servers dont have a FAQ for this). They just "oh... there is a quest I can return" and then they click without even looking at what is it all about.

When you complete an Epic Quest, you will get these quest items: Achievement Book, Money tribute Book, Emperor-serving Book and Material tribute Book. You can assemble them to change for all kinds of awards. If you are lack of some kind of quest item above, you can change the overplus of these quest items for Achievement Token through the Record Achievements. After that, you can get the quest items you need through the Exchange Achievements.

If players had read carefully for all the quest rewards and such, they understand more about it. Didnt the quest desription itself when you click on "Record Achievements" and "Exchange Achievements" stated so clearly for you? So what is the lack of information that the EPIC quest had not given to you? It already told you that you gain books by doing the quests and if you are LACKING other books, you can do it at "Record Achievements" and "Exchange Achievements" to get the books that you are lacking of.

medoc

The language used for the explanation is NOT clear.  It tells you to assemble them for "all kinds of awards"; why not say "Keep these books to turn in later for chests, equipment and other valuable items."  The wording is vague and, in all likelihood, reflects the translation from Chinese (?) to English.  Careful reading, as you suggest, does not make poorly translated instructions more understandable.

Snow

That is why few days after the first Server open, I had create this FAQ regarding those two exchange quests (If you had notice, it was created on 1st OCT 2009) until later part when I'm playing a new server I then add on further more information like the quest goals and such.

And also, even if the management did change it to "Keep these books to turn in later for chests, equipment and other valuable items", there will still have players facing the same old problems. When the EPIC quest is completed, they will still exchange randomly again without looking at the exchange rate of the tokens and the books in return. The management can only help to cover 80% of the problem occurred, but the last 20% is players had to go figure it out themselves.

If you had a better suggestion on how the whole description should be written and prevent 95-100% of the players from facing this problem again, please post your suggestions. I'm sure the management will be happy to see that and maybe even use your whole description.

medoc

You're right; there will still be people that won't do it correctly despite the way it's explained.  That's human behavior.  However, I'm a post-graduate degreed individual who has had problems with the congruence of the wording/explanations, so don't try to use the "I went back later and added explanations to fix it" as an answer.  Why not take a poll to see how many folks have read the explanations on some of these quests yet still didn't understand how they were to be completed, and then maybe have a contest to see who can rewrite the quest goals most efficiently/understandably with a reward coming to those folks?

junra

how do u know how many books u have???

Snow

You can see it from your "Items - Quest"

There will show an quest item such as Achievement Book(if you had conpmete the quest). there is a small figure shown on that item.

Vienna

I came to this thread to complain about the bad translation of the Epic quests, but I see others already have.

I did read it, and again, and again...

I took the "many awards later" to mean "get reward" when the green check shows up.
(since this is the way the quests have been working up until now)

I ended up wasting all my money books and achievement tokens getting this circular reward..
and I am left with 3 Achievement tokens at this time.
I did have 38 tokens and 15 money books.

SO I am not going to see any "rewards" for the thousands of resources,gems and turbans spent on these quests.
I have helped everyone else it seems except myself when the epic's are 100%.

Having that Quest button glowing blue does not help.
When you start off, you learn that when it lights up, some quests has been completed or a new one has been added.
So, I started to think I had missed something.
And clicked everything until all green check marks disappeared.

When I understand how theses damn Epic Quests work, I offer my services to write better instructions on them.

Yay!, go me.
(in case this was missed in translation, I am being sarcastic. I was not happy)

I STILL don't fully understand, and until I do, I am ignoring those Epic quests for now. or forever..

I bet the "So many cases happen here but I see less than 1% in other servers and yet other servers dont have a FAQ for this" is because those servers are in native language or had a better translator.

Most of the translation, typo's, bad grammar and wording has been minor up until now (it does not look professional but it is understandable and usable)

But these Epic quests look like they were translated by google.

I really don't want to offend anyone in particular, but i was a bit annoyed when I realized some of what was happening.

DawnofBroham

Aside from the translation being unclear, these "Exchanges" should not be called "Quest Rewards" but maybe "Exchange Rewards" or just "Exchanges"? only makes sense, considering its no longer a quest but exchanging quest items that were already obtained.

JAZ95

JUST GIVE US THE NEW EPICS! lol